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    • #36562
      Jennifer Lawler
      Keymaster

      This forum is for editors to discuss issues related to the craft and business of editing; we focus largely on dev editing here but we welcome any kind of conversation about words.

    • #49842
      Kendra Olson
      Participant

      Hi everyone, I’m a UK-based (American) developmental editor who specializes in working with indie authors. I also write, though not as much as I’d like to. I’m looking forward to discussing the craft and business of editing!

      • #50041
        Jennifer Lawler
        Keymaster

        Kendra, thanks for chiming in! I’m hoping that with the start of the new year, we’ll get a few more people joining us!

    • #51987
      Nancy Disenhaus
      Participant

      Hi, Kendra and Jennifer. I am a newbie but ever-hopeful developmental editor, copyeditor, line editor, writing coach–yes, I am at the stage of accepting all jobs. I hope to learn a lot from everyone who contributes to this forum. I work from my home in Vermont, where yesterday topped out at 8 degrees–above zero, which is a plus (the day started at 5 below). Jennifer, mega-thanks for your comments to me about use of the various narrative structure templates and outlines out there as well as how you deal with this aspect in your own editing. I’m really enjoying and getting a lot from the great MS Assessment and Eval course I’m working my way through now (and thanks for a fun ms to work on in the course).

    • #53256
      Jennifer Lawler
      Keymaster

      Welcome, Nancy! I’m glad you’re enjoying the class! And I’m hoping we can get a few people chiming in here soon!

    • #54589
      Adrienne Pond
      Participant

      Thank you for creating this space, Jennifer! My name is Adrienne and I live in northern New Mexico. I love developmental editing best but I too am at the stage of accepting anyone who would like some guidance. I’m curious which “various narrative structure templates and outlines” you are referring to, Kendra. If it’s a private exchange or part of one of Jennifer’s courses you paid for, I understand completely if we cannot talk about it here 🙂 Looking forward to this group’s discussions!

    • #54614
      Nancy Disenhaus
      Participant

      Hi Adrienne, this is Nancy in Vermont. I was the one who mentioned the various narrative structure templates and outlines. There are a few I’ve found and like a lot that feature a wealth of posts available online, including Save the Cat, Story Grid, and K.M. Weiland’s many posts (and her 35-page free download). There are books like Story Physics and many others that offer descriptions of (and sometimes prescriptions for) exactly what sorts of scenes doing what jobs in the plot must occur at particular points in a narrative. I find these interesting and possibly useful in looking at plot stretches or scenes that might feel flat, or just for looking at what a plot might be lacking. I don’t really have experience in using these, though. I am a definite newbie, looking for concepts I can use. Following Jennifer’s advice on ways to get experience, I am currently doing a writing coach/developmental editing project with a local high school student at a 75% discount off a typical DE rate (she has written a 200-page YA fantasy novel and is very talented, so it’s a fun project). I really do like working with young writers, so this is probably a good way for me to practice. (And if one of you can put me out of my techno-moron misery and tell me how to upload a photo, I will gladly do that.)
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      • #55970
        Adrienne Pond
        Participant

        Hi Nancy. Thanks for sharing all of that. I’ll look into what you suggested. I’m so glad you found a high schooler to work with – what fun! How did that come together?

      • #55983
        Nancy Disenhaus
        Participant

        Hi Adrienne. It is actually a bit of a story how the work with the high school writer came about. I was a high school English teacher for decades, and a long-ago student of mine, Susannah Noel, is a very accomplished editor and became my editing teacher, having started the Editorial Arts Academy here in Montpelier. (I am now her son’s tutor, in the sort of rich exchange that only happens when you live in the same area for 40 years). Anyway, Susannah met this student writer when the student and her own son were in a play together (yes, this kid writes, acts, and also sings opera). So that was the connection; Susannah didn’t have time to do the DE work for the student and asked me if I would like to take it on as a way to gain experience. I really do like working with young writers, so this is a great way for me to practice this new trade.

      • #57029
        Adrienne Pond
        Participant

        That’s a terrific story, Nancy!

    • #54759
      Jake Nicholls
      Participant

      Hello, everyone! It’s nice to see some familiar faces from Jennifer’s EFA courses, and I’m looking forward to getting to know everyone better through these forums.

      I’m a UK-based developmental editor, specialising in science fiction, fantasy, and LGBTQ+ fiction. I’m currently stuck in that awkward place between doing lots of editing for free to get experience and actually getting paying clients. If anyone has any tips, I’m all ears!

      Nancy – I believe the photo is generated automatically by a site called Gravatar, where you can assign a picture to your email address and it will pop up anywhere where you have an account with that email address. Gravatar is linked to WordPress.com, so I think the first step is to make an account there. Hope that is of some use!

      • #54992
        Jennifer Lawler
        Keymaster

        Jake, thanks for your technical help and welcome to the forums! I’ll start a thread about converting to paid work and would love it if others could chime in.

      • #55984
        Nancy Disenhaus
        Participant

        Jake, I labored mightily to get the photo thing to work, but I finally wrestled it into submission. ‘Scuse the mixed metaphor, and thanks for letting me in on this method for getting photos uploaded.

      • #57174
        Jake Nicholls
        Participant

        No problem, I’m glad it worked in the end!

    • #55415
      Karen McKellar
      Participant

      Hi everyone, I’m Karen, and I’m in Scotland. I’m so glad to be joining the forum. I’ve really enjoyed Jennifer’s DE courses and found her to be a great teacher, so I’m not turning down this opportunity! Great to see the other people posting here. Looking forward to great discussion and informative posting!

    • #55561
      Jennifer Lawler
      Keymaster

      Hi, Karen! Welcome to the forums!

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